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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://brandontools.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Start++ Forum</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/4/ShowForum.aspx</link><description>A place to discuss Start++</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 SP2 (Build: 61129.2)</generator><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/298.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:08:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:298</guid><dc:creator>micko210</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/298.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=298</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;I found the same issue with a portege r200&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif';"&gt;After searching the internet I ran into this thread.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; What I did to solve the issue is to disable on IE add INS.&amp;nbsp; Don’t know if one of you mentioned this or not.&amp;nbsp; As I was adding them back in the problem came back with the flash player add in (flash6.ocx) I enabled all add INS with the exception of the flash player and the issue went away.&amp;nbsp; I then upgraded to flash seven which changed the flash6.ocx to flash9.ocx.&amp;nbsp; Tested it and the issue appears to be resolved&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif';"&gt;Thank you &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Arial','sans-serif';"&gt;Cool site Brandon&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/240.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:52:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:240</guid><dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/240.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=240</wfw:commentRss><description>Start++ 0.7 has been released, and no longer causes this issue.&amp;nbsp; Thanks for reporting it! Both the IE team and I appreciate it :)</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/226.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 09:04:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:226</guid><dc:creator>jtbworld</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/226.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=226</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just wanted to let you know that I got one fix to work. Details here: &lt;A href="http://jtbworld.blogspot.com/2007/08/ie7-and-start-crash-solution.html"&gt;http://jtbworld.blogspot.com/2007/08/ie7-and-start-crash-solution.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/193.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 19:15:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:193</guid><dc:creator>jtbworld</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/193.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=193</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Good to hear.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Can you see a connection with the crashes in Access 2007?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/192.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:53:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:192</guid><dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/192.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=192</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Apparently it's related to this KB article:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936953"&gt;http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/936953&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The workaround there seems to fix the problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The IE team is looking into how this particular&amp;nbsp;interaction causes the crash.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/189.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:13:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:189</guid><dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/189.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=189</wfw:commentRss><description>Well, on the bright side, I think I'm going to be replacing the existing Start menu hook with something different pretty soon (but it'll need to be native C++ so it's a pretty major change).&amp;nbsp; That mechanism won't use the automation APIs that are causing the IE&amp;nbsp;problem - assuming the new mechanism works at all, it should be a lot better anyway&amp;nbsp;:)</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/186.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:05:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:186</guid><dc:creator>jtbworld</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/186.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=186</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;I also think mshtml.dll might be the real problem. There is a newer version. I have not been able to get my hands on it though. Could be worth a try. &lt;A href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933006/en-us"&gt;http://support.microsoft.com/kb/933006/en-us&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But another thing is that I also noticed that Access 2007 crashes when Start++ is running. Often it is when I try to create a query and when it happens I can use the same steps to reproduce it as long as Start++ is running. From what I can see mshtml.dll is not loaded by Access so I don't see the connection there.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/182.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:28:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:182</guid><dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/182.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=182</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Looks like it isn't really a "problem" with Start++, but rather it's a problem with &lt;STRONG&gt;any application&lt;/STRONG&gt; that uses the System.Windows.Automation library and registers event handler on Automation events (which, as you might guess, is something that Start++ does).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'll have to do more digging to figure out why the heck it crashes in the first place.&amp;nbsp; My guess is there's an&amp;nbsp;automation/accessibility related&amp;nbsp;bug in mshtml.dll.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/181.aspx</link><pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:14:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:181</guid><dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/181.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=181</wfw:commentRss><description>Wow, yeah I can reproduce that problem.&amp;nbsp; I can't even begin to imagine how Start++ could be causing the browser to crash in mshtml.dll, but I'll try to figure it out today.</description></item><item><title>IE7 crashes when clicking on drop-down boxes</title><link>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/178.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:33:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">2b645eb8-cac9-4dac-b6c7-489f70076f85:178</guid><dc:creator>jtbworld</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://brandontools.com/forums/thread/178.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://brandontools.com/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=4&amp;PostID=178</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I run into some crash problems using IE7 on Vista and had trouble to find the cause.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://jtbworld.blogspot.com/2007/05/ie7-crashes-when-clicking-on-drop-down.html"&gt;http://jtbworld.blogspot.com/2007/05/ie7-crashes-when-clicking-on-drop-down.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Finally I nailed it down to that when Start++ is running this happens. If I close Start++ it works as expected. I could reproduce this on an installation on a Virtual PC as well.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Can someone else that has Start++ try the sample drop-down that is on the link above and see if IE7 crashes?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>